TRUDEAU RACING THREAD!!

[Jane Fossett]

Please click here and look at this thread.

I'm trying to find time for an additional weekly Big-Boat Racing slot, one convenient for European sailors. The new time slot should not conflict with races at other clubs.

I've been watching fairly closely the last couple races, and the sim-overload lag problem seems better.
I think this is mostly due to Jacqueline Trudeau's new Trudeau Yacht Lite Racing Editions of the Larinda Schooner and Trucordia Yawl.
The latter boats have low prim counts and, in the opinion of most sailors, are also more responsive to sail adjustments than the full cruising edition.

We've therefore decided not to add another big-boat slot to the racing schedule, unless people feel otherwise.
At the same time, many sailors requested we move the Big-Boat races to an earlier hour.
We've therefore changed the time slot for Big-Boat Racing to 4:00pm on Sundays, until further notice.

[Lance Corrimal]

Hi,

tests showed that a larinda's about 20% faster on the same wind than a trucordia.

Should the schooners be their own race class?

I mean, you dont race takos and beach cats in the same race either...

[Jane Fossett]

... tests showed that a larinda's about 20% faster on the same wind than a trucordia. ...

I agree the Larinda seems faster, but a good race time is not all about speed.
I think this might actually be a good opportunity to get some hotlaps data on the Larinda and compare it in a real race scenario to the Trucordia.
Anyone willing to give it a try and post some numbers with either a yawl or schooner on the NYC B1-A course?
I'll do some runs when I get back too.

[Yuukie Onmura]

... tests showed that a larinda's about 20% faster on the same wind than a trucordia. ...

I agree the Larinda seems faster, but a good race time is not all about speed.

That's the problem, on a course like the B1A with its two loooong legs at 45° winds it is about speed. And i don't think that you can make up for 20% speed difference by tactics, at least not on a course like the b1a with two long "halfwind" legs (dunno the proper english term, in german sailing a course with 90° wind is called halfwind course).

My suggestion would be, either let the larindas be their own race class, or use a course with less long legs and more markers. the nyc b2a and taco a come to mind, or maybe the syc islands course.

I think this might actually be a good opportunity to get some hotlaps data on the Larinda and compare it in a real race scenario to the Trucordia.
Anyone willing to give it a try and post some numbers with either a yawl or schooner on the NYC B1-A course?
I'll do some runs when I get back too.

I'll do some, but can't before 10am linden.

[Jane Fossett]

That's the problem, on a course like the B1A with its two loooong legs at 45° winds it is about speed. And i don't think that you can make up for 20% speed difference by tactics, at least not on a course like the b1a with two long "halfwind" legs (dunno the proper english term, in german sailing a course with 90° wind is called halfwind course).
My suggestion would be, either let the larindas be their own race class, or use a course with less long legs and more markers. the nyc b2a and taco a come to mind, or maybe the syc islands course.

1. I think the term for the point of sail with an apparent wind of 90 degrees is a "beam reach."
2. Yes, maybe mixing up the courses is a good idea, once we get some hotlaps comparisons on B-1a. However, I'm not sure about the Islands Course! I had a good laugh thinking of how one might maneuver 3 overlapped Larindas through those tight turns.

[Yuukie Onmura]

However, I'm not sure about the Islands Course! I had a good laugh thinking of how one might maneuver 3 overlapped Larindas through those tight turns.

thats my point, the pure speed of a larinda's more or less useless there ^^

[Elisha Paklena]

Would changing the windsetter on those to show a greater variance in wind direction (not necessarily speed) help any? if part of the problem that would exist with a less direct course (like islands) would be maneuvering room, instead of bending the course wouldn't bending the wind angle have the same effective result (making no 'one best line' through the course) in bringing the ships to more equal footing?

And I don't mean shifts like ANWR, but more on the order of 30 degrees to either side of the average...

[Jane Fossett]

Guess what...
after nine months of discussion of this global issue...
maybe we can start collecting some handicap data
on the different classes of Trudeau boats!

Please take a look at the details here,
then get in your boat, race a hotlap, and post it here!

[Jane Fossett]

D. Spitz hasbeen taking some incredible pictures of the Big-boat Races. Go look at them here.

[Jane Fossett]

The December 16 Big-boat races were great fun, with a very large fleet of boats.
Next week we'll start from both lines to reduce the lag!!

[Cybrid Keats]

D. Spitz hasbeen taking some incredible pictures of the Big-boat Races.

Gorgeous... quite impressed with Windlight so far.... the beta tends to stutter a bit, but it looks great... ok not quite Far Cry (which at 3 years old is already starting to look dated), but shed loads better than the old 'late 90s' look to the SL graphics...

[Jacqueline Trudeau]

Go Friendship, Manul Rotaru! Show those schooner boys (and girls) how it's done!

[Surfwidow Beaumont]

oh yeah far cry - thats what i am after

that great look without sunsets

the only problem i can see with windlight is every shot i have seen with the exception of some of janes work

is sunset

comon guys lets see midday a little in those glorious shots

that said i did see a lovely foggy misty daytime shot by Verkin Raven i think that was interesting and shows it has more than sunsets

and those night shots by Jane were nice of the powerboating

but sunsets sunsets everywhere or windlight

i may use a sunset in a video so no lash back LOL

just interested in seeing what can be done love to read the settings fo the shots too

[Jacqueline Trudeau]

Well in all fairness, IMO sunsets are pretty much the only default windlight setting that doesn't blow out the texturing color or put most of your build in a dark shadow. Just like RL, it's the "magic hour". Otherwise it's a lot of tweaking with the environmental editor. Though I am partial to a dripping fog as well... Must be my San Francisco roots

[Jane Fossett]

I snap lots of pictures during races, mostly trying to catch the details of strategy and application of racing rules.

The best diurnal lighting usually depends on the view angle and what you want to emphasize. Here are a couple quick Windlight snapshots of the Tuesday Tako Races at NYC. In the first, "Sunset," accentuates the reflection off the waves. The second snapshot shows the same view, using "Sunrise" light to illuminate the raceboats and sails.